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Darkginger

Substitute for chicken

Speaking as a meat eater, I would love you forever if you served aubergine parmigiana, as mentioned above. It's just about my favourite dish that isn't Indian. Now I have the munchies!

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SonyaK

Quorn

Quorn was only introduced in Australia recently, and about 10 years ago in USA.
There have been warnings in USA of people having allergic reactions to it - even anaphylactic shock reactions!! It's rare but does happen, and I have read warnings here, in Oz, too.
One group in USA wanted Quorn removed from the shops, but I don't think it has been.
It hasn't really taken off in Oz, as far as I know. I tried the pasties, as I could only find the pre-made things - not mince or chicken-style pieces, and didn't fancy sausages!! Didn't really like the pasties though.

Quorn does contain egg white, so not suitable for vegans. Just in case one of your friends is vegan, Chazza.

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Chazza

Not vegan

"Quorn does contain egg white, so not suitable for vegans. Just in case one of your friends is vegan, Chazza."

Thanks for that, I do know one vegan and I take a bit of pride in not deliberately tricking him. Not that it's always helped, he didn't know that Lee and Perrins contained anchovies, and when I pointed that out it somehow became 'all my fault' and bought about a three month sulk. He never turned down a dinner invitation though.

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JAMES

Quorn.

"There have been warnings in USA of people having allergic reactions to it - even anaphylactic shock reactions!! It's rare but does happen, and I have read warnings here, in Oz, too.
One group in USA wanted Quorn removed from the shops, but I don't think it has been.
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No, it has not been removed from sale in the US, it was all fuss over nothing. The group that wanted quorn removed from sale is some food extremist group and their argument was SO flawed. In fact, it was SO flawed that the US equivalent to the Food Standards Agency all but laughed at them with their remove from sale demands. In a statement, and I can't remember the exact quote here, a rep said along the lines of "If we removed Quorn due to its possible % of allergies, we'd also have to remove anything with a great %. US supermarkets would therefore have to lose about two thirds of their stock".

The rate of reaction is 0.0007% and its interesting also to note that the group who wanted Quorn removed from sale was funded entirely by a company galled Gardenburger - Yep, that would by the USA biggest manufacturer of vegetarian foods!!!!

No one else smell a rat yet?

There is not a single food available that someone is not allergic to.

Five times as many people are intolerant to Soy products than to Quorn, and 35 times more people have a allergy to nuts. Have either of those products been removed from sale? No.

As for it not being vegan, no it isn't, and its never claimed to be.
Chazza asked for vegetarian substitutes, not vegan ones. I'd not have suggest Quorn otherwise.

Finally, I also do not like the ready meal products they do, I only buy the base ingredient ones, not the sausage rolls, lasagne etc.

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JAMES

Quorn.

"all I'm saying is don't assume that all vegetarians like quorn , many people won't eat it for various reasons.
If the apple pie isn't liked it won't be a disaster but to eat a main meal made with a meat substitute might be for some.
After all not all meat eaters would eat veal, rabbit or liver so if someone was planning to serve any of those meats you would surely check or time and money could be wasted."

Well, I suppose apple pie was not a good example, but my point is the same. If I were serving something using minced beef, I'd not phone all my guests first and check if they eat it. I'd never serve veal, rabbit or liver anyway. If any of my guests have a real problem with any food, I'd expect THEM to tell ME, not for me to go through a list of everything food wise to find out what I can or cannot use.

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JAMES

L&P!

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Thanks for that, I do know one vegan and I take a bit of pride in not deliberately tricking him. Not that it's always helped, he didn't know that Lee and Perrins contained anchovies, and when I pointed that out it somehow became 'all my fault' and bought about a three month sulk. He never turned down a dinner invitation though."

I only found out about the anchovies when I watched a delia DVD and she mentioned it.

I felt a bit ill for 10 mins, and then though "oh s*d it, James, you've been using it for years, you can't hate it that much"

LOL! :)

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RachelF

substitute chicken

Some vegetarians don't do 'pretend meat'...
I use Quorn ingredients now and again - there's usually some in my freezer - but I am not keen on the ready meals. I saw a nutritionist recently and he was dead against it - and TSP - because of its processed nature.
p.s. Apparently Quorn are going to come out with a vegan range in the UK.

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RachelF

substitute chicken

I suppose another substitute is gluten based stuff such as seitan (aka satan to my coeliac friend)- you can buy tins of mock meat made of this (Granose brand, I think). I haven't had the guts to try it yet, although I have made a quite successful vegan salami using vital wheat gluten.

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JAMES

Quorn.

Yes, Quorn do want to go into vegan foods too, so far there are only burgers but you don't see them very often.

I've used granose (sp!) a few times, I always thought it was soya based?

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RachelF

substitute chicken

Yes Granose do TSP, but they did do tins of mock duck. My tin could well be two years old! eek! Time for a cupboard clear out.
It looks disgusting
http://www.veggiestuff.com/acatalog/granose_mock_duck.html
Granovita do it too, and you can get it from Chinese supermarkets.
I am going to open my tin tomorrow if it's not out of date!

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Chazza

Substitute for chicken (or duck)

I've been away for a little while...
From RachelF "I saw a nutritionist recently and he was dead against [Quorn] and TSP because of its processed nature.

Seitan (aka satan to my coeliac friend)- you can buy tins of mock meat made of this - I have made a quite successful vegan salami using vital wheat gluten."


All of these products must be pretty processed I would think, isn't that right? Seitan will be perfect for my niece Evelyn who likes to be called Evel. But what is it, and what is vital wheat gluten? Sounds like the Vril in Bovril.

That shop at veggiestuff looks amazing, they make German ham from Wheat and Lupin protein (Lupin???) so I will have a good look around there.

Did you open the tin? Is it really meat like? Re Paneer, I started my testing by ordering some from the Curry House, it tastes great but it's too milky for what I'm trying to do.

 
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